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Post by henrycpa on Feb 6, 2024 9:49:20 GMT -5
www.disneyfoodblog.com/2024/02/03/expert-predicts-disney-world-will-announce-5th-park/Actually not sure how I feel about this. I Think the existing parks need some TLC. Epcot Imagination Pavillion and The Seas both could be brought into the 21st century. And would love to see a couple of new countries in World Showcase. Would love to see how Dinoland redo works out and with the announcement of land behind Big Thunder mountain for a new Land in MK (Can we please have a Villian Land) I just think there are things that could be done in existing parks.
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Post by johnb on Feb 6, 2024 10:30:35 GMT -5
Number one for me is ride maintenance/reliability. Every time over the last year (about 20-22 days in the parks) something big was down, often at rope drop.
Yesterday, for example, my sister was in MK for early morning entry. Peter Pan and Pooh were both down. She had Lightning Lane for Buzz Lightyear. It went down.
Fix the rides and improve what already exists before opening a new park. I'd prefer to see the return of live entertainment in the existing parks over a new park.
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Post by baymaxfan on Feb 6, 2024 10:41:21 GMT -5
I've been hearing about 5th gate rumors for many years now. I'll believe it when I see it. I agree that they need better maintenance/refurb on the rides they have and that they have plenty of spaces to expand within the parks that currently exist.
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Post by nickys on Feb 6, 2024 11:48:47 GMT -5
I doubt it!
Seems like DHS will get a quick hit boost first, before the AK plans.
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Post by brp on Feb 6, 2024 12:01:55 GMT -5
Agree with others that this should be a lower priority than increasing the reliability of existing attractions. I think of RotR in this regard.
Likely, they would learn much if they tried to really improve these and, if they ever do build a 5th gate, these learnings could go a long way to make that one more successful from the start.
But first get the house in order before adding a room.
Cheers.
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Post by nickys on Feb 6, 2024 13:15:53 GMT -5
Agree with others that this should be a lower priority than increasing the reliability of existing attractions. I think of RotR in this regard. Likely, they would learn much if they tried to really improve these and, if they ever do build a 5th gate, these learnings could go a long way to make that one more successful from the start. But first get the house in order before adding a room. Cheers. I think the RotR ship has sailed when it comes to reliability. The top brass insisted on rushing the opening before the engineers were finished testing. To fix the problems now would probably mean closing the ride for several months at this point. And I don’t think that will happen. Especially since it’s taking in money through ILLs. |
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Post by tomandrobin on Feb 6, 2024 16:50:09 GMT -5
Well.....On the one hand, Disney needs to respond to Universal's new theme park. On the other hand, Disney needs to fix the existing parks. On the third hand, Disney is up to its eyeballs in debt.
Iger needs a win. He is retiring (again) in 2026, which is not enough time to build a new park under his leadership. I am not even sure a MK expansion or Dinoland rebuild could be completed before his departure. Looks like the only answer is to extend Iger's retirement date (again) so Bob can get more work done.
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Post by applegrcoug on Feb 6, 2024 19:36:15 GMT -5
After coming from WDW last week, it seems to me more is needed at HS in some way shape or form. When the wait for Slinky Dog is over two hours on a Tuesday in January, that is a bit crazy. An interesting exercise would be to rope HS and go to Slinky dog, then ROTR, then smugglers, etc etc and see how far you could get in a day. No lightning lanes.  |
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Post by Eeyorelover22 on Feb 6, 2024 19:37:23 GMT -5
How many decades would it take to build an entire park?
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Post by WDWGoof on Feb 7, 2024 6:43:34 GMT -5
I agree with them needing to bring more entertainment back first. With me hearing over and over about how long the ride lines are, I can’t help but think entertainment was a large segment of spreading out the crowds. Having a big chunk of people watching say Off Kilter on one end of Epcot, and then the garbage can drum guys over by Test Track and so on and so forth….that gives people more things to do staying out of lines. It just seemed like a natural correct on how things flowed. Also last time I was in a park, definitely upkeep was lacking. Got to take care of their base first.
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Post by johnb on Feb 7, 2024 11:11:38 GMT -5
I agree with them needing to bring more entertainment back first. With me hearing over and over about how long the ride lines are, I can’t help but think entertainment was a large segment of spreading out the crowds. Having a big chunk of people watching say Off Kilter on one end of Epcot, and then the garbage can drum guys over by Test Track and so on and so forth….that gives people more things to do staying out of lines. It just seemed like a natural correct on how things flowed. Also last time I was in a park, definitely upkeep was lacking. Got to take care of their base first. Someone at WDW sees this and thinks, "If they're standing/watching, they're not buying. We can save money by axing the performers, and make money because these guests are no more likely to eat/drink/shop." |
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Post by henrycpa on Feb 7, 2024 12:06:28 GMT -5
After coming from WDW last week, it seems to me more is needed at HS in some way shape or form. When the wait for Slinky Dog is over two hours on a Tuesday in January, that is a bit crazy. An interesting exercise would be to rope HS and go to Slinky dog, then ROTR, then smugglers, etc etc and see how far you could get in a day. No lightning lanes. This is from December 2022 so a bit aged..but we were at DHS for Opening the first week in December and went straight to Slinky. Took us 67 Mins to get on the ride and when off the line was over 120. |
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Post by bakerworld on Feb 7, 2024 13:10:16 GMT -5
I agree that the existing parks could use some maintenance but wonder if the current generation Disney employees are able to produce the maintenance needed. I remember standing in Frontierland back in the 70's watching a painter produce the weathered board look on the buildings. That was very interesting to watch.
I also always wonder about the '5th gate' thingy as to us the Springs and both water parks are 'gate-y'.
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Post by Brian5581 on Feb 8, 2024 21:14:34 GMT -5
Doubtful.
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Post by captjacksfamily on Feb 9, 2024 2:06:31 GMT -5
I don't see the argument that Universal is building a new gate so Disney needs a new gate, by my count this will be three for Universal so Disney still has one more gate than Universal. They also need to compete with others (including themselves ) for you travel $$$. Just look at the cruise industry, cruises used to be for older travels but now it seems that every year there is a new ship coming out that that includes a theme park on the top deck and is being market towards family travel that is the heart of WDW customers. I believe that Disney parks are aging and there is a need to update the parks infrastructure with what can be expensive and mostly behind the scene fixes. Hopefully this is what is happening at Epcot with the redo of CommuniCore area. While I love the added lights to the golf ball and Moana is pretty cute I am not sure about the park area. Hopeful they're building it in such a way that it will be easier to maintain and modify in the future
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