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Post by pooh bears mom on Nov 10, 2024 11:28:39 GMT -5
Poly tower or RIV points trying to decide. We have bcv, ccv, vgf, and ssr. Which would you pick and why?
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Post by brp on Nov 10, 2024 11:39:09 GMT -5
Well, I'd buy none of the above as neither holds much interest for us. But some things to consider:
If parks are important (they are paramount for us), then it's a question of which parks and access. Poly II has walking access to one park (MK), and then monorail to Epcot. From Riv, you can't walk anywhere, but Epcot and DHS are close via Skylink (weather permitting).
The walking/running area around Riv and Caribbean are very nice. A little more limited in the Poly/GF area - still nice, but not as expansive as the former.
I think that the dining choices around Riviera/CB are better. There is some good stuff at Poly/GF, but I think it has faded and Riviera has risen up.
Cheers.
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Post by helenabear on Nov 10, 2024 12:43:15 GMT -5
Where do you like staying most? PVB now has the new IT which will probably be harder to get certain room types so owning there could be a bonus. If you are looking at regular studios and don't mind a longhouse vs an IT room, you'll be fine to do 7 months usually. PVB will have higher resale if that is a consideration. If you want duo studios then both have them and you'd have to pick which you like better.
Transportation is a deciding factor for me. The skyline is hit or miss with weather so not always dependable. The lines back from Epcot at night are pretty long even an hour prior to closing. We *love* Epcot so reliable transportation or walking there is a must for us. Our next favorite is MK and again good transportation is a must there. Buses and the security just outside of MK from the buses is honestly the worst I've been through as a whole. I try to avoid it. PVB wins to me because you can walk to the TTC and take the monorail to Epcot. The resort line isn't my favorite to take and so I try to avoid it. The time it takes to get from Epcot from TTC is not very long. The skyline isn't super long either but it can stop more and not as comfortable in extreme temps and will not run entirely in some weather where the monorail can. Being able to walk, boat, monorail or even ferry to MK is a massive bonus. The TTC is not as hard to get through from the resort as they let you in on a lane even if a tram has left off.
Both have the ability to walk to another resort. PVB gives you GF and Riviera gives you Caribbean Beach. I will say we were pretty disappointed with CBR options and really love the options at GF. So that's a win for us. The monorail and ability to hop to WL & Ft Wilderness is a good bonus. Riviera allows you to get to AoA and Pop. Dining at PVB is good. I'd say the QS at Riviera is way better at this time, but not knowing exactly what Wailulu will offer, it's hard to say for sure if it will surpass Riviera or not. But the ability to walk to GF makes it a clear winner for me even not knowing what Wailulu will offer. Riviera food itself is good, but limited in locations so if you don't want QS it will be really hard to get into Topolinos and what is offered at CBR is really not good (we have authentic Caribbean food we make at home which means we're picky about it elsewhere)
The rooms are totally different but from what I've seen of the videos and what I've been in on the longhouses and the bungalows, they're both great. I like the layout of the studio for PVB above all other studios. The rooms will be slightly bigger at Riviera and well appointed but PVB longhouses have that extra half bath. The 1 bedrooms are larger again at Rivier and beautiful but they lack the 2nd bathroom which for us, is a negative. The longhouse and bungalow rooms are darker which is my only negative but have great pops of color. The bungalows are beautiful but again a bit darker, though the master bath is way brighter feeling to me. Views are exceptional. For the Islant Tower it's a bit more of a beachy chic vibe. Both are polarizing I think. Some feel Riviera is a bit too much like VGF is and others find PVB to be either bland or to kitschy.
All this to say? I'd obviously pick PVB myself. Even if not a fan of the theme, the location and what it offers is more for me. I do not like DHS at all and the skyline is a pain. While resort monorail is a pain as well, it's easy to avoid at PVB. So it wins.
But buy wherever you might want to stay most.
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Post by bakerworld on Nov 11, 2024 10:03:52 GMT -5
I like Bay Lake because we enjoy Steakhouse 71, Outer Rim, and the monorail access to Poly and Epcot. The Rivera is nice too. DH loves Rivera with Bar Riva and Topolino's, along with the Skyline. We didn't stay long enough to figure out the walkway to CBR. I have a slight claustrophobia issue with Rivera as, for some reason, it made me feel 'contained'. However, if we were purchasing points I would select Rivera because we have found it hard to reserve at the 7 month deadline where Bay Lake always has availability. Maybe that's just been our experience but it is what would convince me to buy. That was why we purchased Beach Club.
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Post by tomandrobin on Nov 11, 2024 10:05:11 GMT -5
Well....We own Riviera, but not Poly.
Pros-Cons for us at each resort.
Riviera Pro Skyliner Quiet pool, family pool, kid pool Restaurants - Topolino's is a top 5 in WDW, Bar Riva, Coffee Bar and Prima Piatta. Very nice Community Hall Has that air of elegance similar to Grand Floridian
Con Restrictions of resale, lowers it value Point hog vs older resorts
Poly Pro The Tower...Gives you almost a full DVC resort experience Mostly quick transportation to MK Lots of walkable dining choices The Vibe....either you get it or you don't, there doesn't seem to be much in between Legacy Resort....no restrictions on resales Large Studio rooms in phase 1.
Cons Point Hog, especially the "special" rooms/categories Phase 1 only has studios, which will probably make booking The Tower difficult even in home resort booking periods. The Horns (at least for me)
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Post by tomandrobin on Nov 11, 2024 10:23:03 GMT -5
I always say, buy where you want to stay....especially for first time buyers. For me, I am not opposed to buying more SSR and moving reservations at the 7-month window. But I am also happy staying at SSR....especially for the point cost.
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Post by baymaxfan on Nov 11, 2024 10:28:15 GMT -5
Since you are a seasoned DVCer and owner at several properties, which concept appeals more to you? The last few posters have provided a great list of pros and cons and more opinions are likely not helpful as you will never get a consensus on this. It really comes down to what your gut says.
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Post by pooh bears mom on Nov 11, 2024 11:12:24 GMT -5
All good advice and opinions. DH is in buy more SSR points instead. I do want RIV points for the std. View rooms which i am sure will not be available in 7 minth window because of the restrictions. Might just sit and wait for a bit longer.
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Post by bakerworld on Nov 11, 2024 11:44:10 GMT -5
All good advice and opinions. DH is in buy more SSR points instead. I do want RIV points for the std. View rooms which i am sure will not be available in 7 month window because of the restrictions. Might just sit and wait for a bit longer. For us, this would be the biggest reason to purchase. Staying at SSR in a preferred villa is not hard to do at all within a few months of arrival. The year we were stuck with a ton of distressed point, bookable only at 60 days, we were able to stay in a SSR preferred over July 4th.
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Post by helenabear on Nov 11, 2024 11:47:06 GMT -5
All good advice and opinions. DH is in buy more SSR points instead. I do want RIV points for the std. View rooms which i am sure will not be available in 7 minth window because of the restrictions. Might just sit and wait for a bit longer. I had no issues using my other points for Riviera Std view the week before easter. I think it will be easier to book at Riviera than PVB Tower in the future if you are interested in staying there. I personally would try to stay in both and see how you feel.
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Post by fuzzylogic on Nov 11, 2024 12:59:17 GMT -5
After a Poly stay I miss it and want to get back ASAP. That's why I'd buy there over Riviera.
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Post by tomandrobin on Nov 12, 2024 8:06:43 GMT -5
All good advice and opinions. DH is in buy more SSR points instead. I do want RIV points for the std. View rooms which i am sure will not be available in 7 minth window because of the restrictions. Might just sit and wait for a bit longer. Standard View Rooms at Riviera is what we book all the time. I am just guessing, but I would say that 70% of our Riviera stays were booked at the 7 month window. But I will add that miss that window by a few weeks and inventory dries up really fast.
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Post by tomandrobin on Nov 12, 2024 8:26:33 GMT -5
I had no issues using my other points for Riviera Std view the week before easter. I think it will be easier to book at Riviera than PVB Tower in the future if you are interested in staying there. I personally would try to stay in both and see how you feel. This is true mostly because of the ungodly phase 1 imbalance of room types and points. I fell that the 7 month window for the Poly Tower will be difficult, unless you want a Studio.
Trying out a resort is really good advice. I was not going to buy Riviera when it opened because I thought it was pricey and a point hog. Then we we stayed twice and realized that we needed to own at the resort. We currently have 3 contracts and 470 points at Riviera.
We did give Poly a try, but studios just is not our thing. Now, the Tower does change my opinion a little.....but probably not enough to buy at the resort. Why, because we primarily stay in 1-bedrooms. Memorial Day weekend would cost 126 pts for 3-days. SSR is 88 pts for the same weekend. At this point, I rather buy the SSR points and gamble at the 7-month window that I can get a 1-bedroom. I looked at VGF is 130 pts for the same weekend.
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Post by brp on Nov 12, 2024 9:43:13 GMT -5
All good advice and opinions. DH is in buy more SSR points instead. I do want RIV points for the std. View rooms which i am sure will not be available in 7 minth window because of the restrictions. Might just sit and wait for a bit longer. Standard View Rooms at Riviera is what we book all the time. I am just guessing, but I would say that 70% of our Riviera stays were booked at the 7 month window. But I will add that miss that window by a few weeks and inventory dries up really fast. Theoretical question only since we're really not interested in Riviera, but maybe for future similar properties:
We have 250 Resale points and 25 Direct points between BCV and BWV. Would we even be allowed to book at Riviera, or future similar properties, at 7 months with this points mix?
Cheers.
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Post by tomandrobin on Nov 12, 2024 9:46:25 GMT -5
If your resale contracts were bought before Jan 19, 2019 then you are grandfathered and have no restrictions.
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