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Post by oldhalfelf on May 11, 2023 15:06:03 GMT -5
Will an AP holder's reservation be an "if you intend to be here you have to tell us so we can plan" requirement or an "if you want to be here you have to get our permission which we may deny based on other load" requirement? In the latter case, there would be a real problem if bought-and-paid-for ticket load was to be "enhanced" for permission decision-making with projected load, based on previously collected data. WDW could be accused of creating stealth block-out dates (e.g., for Incredi-passes, which were sold as not having any.) It's the latter. Yes Incredi-passes are sold as not having any blockout dates, but everyone is informed before buying that you need a reservation and they are limited. An Incredi-pass does not guarantee you access to the parks - just the option to make a park reservation any day they are not otherwise booked up. Without a reservation system, an Incredi-pass holder could walk up to MK on Christmas morning unplanned and expect to get in.
Please permit me to try to clarify my concern. I am fine with any competent adult being kept out on Christmas or any other morning if the park will be full of already bought-and-paid-for ticket-holders and earlier park reservaitons. What I am worried about is attendance projections based upon last year's data being used to keep "no block-out date" pass-holders out months before the ticket-holders have actually purchased their tickets, and hence exhausting park capacity. (That is what I mean by stealth block-out dates.) In fairness, I think the Disney high command and its lawyers are too smart to want the company to do that, but they might want an inspector general-type to check that it doesn't get coded that way by someone in middle management. ("Well garsh, Mickey, last year's data was just sitting there, and so I thought ....") The principle I am hoping will be clearly stated and honored is that if park capacity is not yet exhausted by actual ticket sales and other reservations, passes without the date in question blocked-out at the point of pass sale are accepted -- period.  |
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Post by fuzzylogic on May 11, 2023 15:24:00 GMT -5
Please permit me to try to clarify my concern. I am fine with any competent adult being kept out on Christmas or any other morning if the park will be full of already bought-and-paid-for ticket-holders and earlier park reservaitons. What I am worried about is attendance projections based upon last year's data being used to keep "no block-out date" pass-holders out months before the ticket-holders have actually purchased their tickets, and hence exhausting park capacity. (That is what I mean by stealth block-out dates.) The principle I am hoping will be clearly stated and honored is that if park capacity is not yet exhausted by actual ticket sales and other reservations, passes without the date in question blocked-out at the point of pass sale are accepted -- period. I think what you're describing is possible. e.g. Disney can allocate a certain number of spots for AP reservations. Isn't that the status quo? AP bookings are in a separate bucket. When I check the park calendars I see a different set for AP-Only vs Ticketed Resort Guest. Do you have reason to believe that will not continue? Right now it's hard to verify since there's full availability every day for all types. |
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Post by SuzanneSLO on May 23, 2023 11:12:26 GMT -5
Not WDW, so this might not apply there, but we found out on our recent DL visit that the Resort front desk castmembers have a lot of flexibility when it comes to park reservations. My brother upgraded a 3 day ticket to add a 4th day and was able to schedule a park reservation for that day at CA even though it was technically sold out even to resort guests. A front desk castmember was able to modify my reservation for the day from DL to CA, again even though both were sold out even to resort guests.
Even with the greater flexibility, still not a fan of park reservations. By the time we got to the 4th day, it was clear that DL would have been the better choice and not being able to hop before 11Am meant -along with an unexpected closure — meant we were not able to enjoy one last ride on Rise of the Resistance.
on the other hand, a SoCAl Disney blog noted that Universal Studios Hollywood - with no park reservations — was uncomfortably crowded over the last weekend, while DL was very manageable.
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Post by dlwdwdvc on May 25, 2023 13:07:34 GMT -5
I guess Tink 711 was correct with the dining “restricted” reservations for certain locations
I just noticed Round Up BBQ has this requirement:
Must have a Theme Park Pass and Required eligible entry ticket for your desired reservation date.
Does anybody know if there are other locations that have this restriction?
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Post by nickys on May 25, 2023 13:45:09 GMT -5
I guess Tink 711 was correct with the dining “restricted” reservations for certain locations I just noticed Round Up BBQ has this requirement: Must have a Theme Park Pass and Required eligible entry ticket for your desired reservation date. Does anybody know if there are other locations that have this restriction? Interested where you saw that information. Was that just on the restaurant page or when you were booking? And did you try to book? I just booked, and then cancelled, a reservation for July 10th for the Round-Up BBQ with neither a ticket or park reservation. . |
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Post by dlwdwdvc on May 25, 2023 14:03:04 GMT -5
I was trying to book and decided to Open the Page that pops up on the DisneyWorld site that has more description .
I took a screen shot but I can’t post the attachment .
It just happened to catch my eye because it is on the bottom of the page .
I don’t think I have ever noticed those “ specific” requirements ever before for making a dining reservation .
Maybe because it is new ?
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Post by nickys on May 25, 2023 14:36:01 GMT -5
I was trying to book and decided to Open the Page that pops up on the DisneyWorld site that has more description . I took a screen shot but I can’t post the attachment . It just happened to catch my eye because it is on the bottom of the page . I don’t think I have ever noticed those “ specific” requirements ever before for making a dining reservation . Maybe because it is new ? I It’s just telling you that you have to have a ticket and park reservation to be able to get to the restaurant. So it’s not new. I’ve seen questions on forums asking “do I need a ticket to MK if I’m just going to BOG for dinner?” |
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Post by lovindisney on May 25, 2023 17:56:25 GMT -5
I wish they would bring back the 3 fast passes. I hate the I flexibility of the reservations.
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