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Post by helenabear on Jun 28, 2023 8:31:51 GMT -5
Very interesting and certainly has a lot of ramifications in that country.
This semi-related.....When I grew up, if you were born in 1966, you started Kindergarten in 1971 at age 5, regardless of the month you were born. This applied to sports too. Today, schools and sports look at year and month of being born. Both of my grandsons were born in the Fall, which means they started school a year later then a kid who was born in July of the same year. It makes sense to a point of why they do it. My friend's birthday from high school is December 30th, my birthday is February 26, my younger brother's birthday is February 7 (we are 11m 2.5w apart in age).....my friend is only 7 weeks older then my brother, but was a year above in everything.
Now I see a lot of kids being held back. When I grew up areas had cutoff dates for grades. I'm Feb birthday and with an Oct 1st cutoff I was still older than most friends in my grade. My spouse (same grad year) is Sept so 7 months younger than me. Our kid is Nov and expected to be older than many. But nope.... lots of May-Sept kids were held back. Some understandably like one of my son's friends has a late Sept birthday and was delayed and in an area of importance so kept him out of K an extra year. Another had developmental delays and an IEP so did K 2x. Others just decided an April or May birthday was too young (sports ahem) and held back. A kid in Scouts already turned 18 mid way through Junior year. Will be 19 - nearly 20 when heading to college. Just to give the kid an edge. Weird..... |
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Post by henrycpa on Jun 29, 2023 6:39:45 GMT -5
It has been a lot of years since Captain Boarders told my drivers ed class this information but...
He was asked how we could be an adult (18) and not allowed to consume alcohol. His answer was enlightening.
The Government cannot tell a legal adult they are not allowed to consume alcohol. They can only prevent them from purchasing it. Hence, why he was at our DE class educating about drunk driving.
So, my understanding is a parent or any adult can purchase an alcoholic beverage and let their 18 year old or older drink.
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Post by brp on Jun 29, 2023 10:37:05 GMT -5
So, my understanding is a parent or any adult can purchase an alcoholic beverage and let their 18 year old or older drink. Except that, as we saw above, this is the case in some states and not others. Personal interpretations don't change laws.
Cheers.
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Post by helenabear on Jun 29, 2023 12:13:56 GMT -5
It has been a lot of years since Captain Boarders told my drivers ed class this information but... He was asked how we could be an adult (18) and not allowed to consume alcohol. His answer was enlightening. The Government cannot tell a legal adult they are not allowed to consume alcohol. They can only prevent them from purchasing it. Hence, why he was at our DE class educating about drunk driving. So, my understanding is a parent or any adult can purchase an alcoholic beverage and let their 18 year old or older drink. Except it is not true. Florida is one state that does not allow it and has fines for those who do and get caught |
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Post by tomandrobin on Jun 29, 2023 12:27:22 GMT -5
Except that, as we saw above, this is the case in some states and not others. Personal interpretations don't change laws.
Cheers.
Except it is not true. Florida is one state that does not allow it and has fines for those who do and get caught I am pretty sure Jamie is referring to personal experience in his own state, not implying it was for Florida.
I know growing up in Maryland, kids under the age of 21, are allowed to drink at home
Maryland’s law allows those under 21 to consume alcohol if they’re in a private residence or the “curtilage of the residence” — for example, the backyard, patio or pool area. However, they must have the consent of a family member who’s of legal drinking age and be supervised by that person. Under Maryland law, the person giving the consent and the minor must be “members of the same immediate family.”
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Post by enginearmom on Jun 29, 2023 12:30:33 GMT -5
It's legal in Wisconsin for kids (anyone under 21, no lower age limit) to drink with their parents in a restaurant or bar. The establishment can choose not to serve. I was shocked to learn this when I moved here from Iowa 20 years ago. At the time, my husband was a waiter, and a dad at a restaurant where he worked had his 2 young kids split a beer and see how fast they could shotgun it. He was going to put a stop to it, but the manager said no, it's legal. Hey, Appleton hasn't won the 'Drunkest City in America' designation multiple years for nothing!
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Post by tomandrobin on Jun 29, 2023 13:03:31 GMT -5
We own a timeshare at Atlantis Resort in the Bahamas, that we bought in 2004. We use to go every year with out travel friends and their kids. The Atlantis resort has been cashless for as long as I remember, only credit cards or room cards were allowed to make purchases around the water park. One year our youngest son and our friends youngest son, who were 14 and 15 at the time, ordered frozen cocktails with lunch. That is the trip we learned that as long as you can reach the bar and have a room key, you can get served alcohol.....age was a suggestion. We found that "policy" seems to be all over the Caribbean were we have visited.....Mexico, Jamaica, Virgin Island (both), Puerto Rico, etc.
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Post by helenabear on Jun 29, 2023 15:53:08 GMT -5
Except that, as we saw above, this is the case in some states and not others. Personal interpretations don't change laws. Cheers. Except it is not true. Florida is one state that does not allow it and has fines for those who do and get caught I am pretty sure Jamie is referring to personal experience in his own state, not implying it was for Florida.
I know growing up in Maryland, kids under the age of 21, are allowed to drink at home Maryland’s law allows those under 21 to consume alcohol if they’re in a private residence or the “curtilage of the residence” — for example, the backyard, patio or pool area. However, they must have the consent of a family member who’s of legal drinking age and be supervised by that person. Under Maryland law, the person giving the consent and the minor must be “members of the same immediate family.”
yeah sorry, I did read it as "generic" not state specific. My own state is similar with what we're allowed to do. I'm honestly surprised in Florida tbh. But outside of religion or that random class for taste which is so weird to me still to even try to describe, they're kind of strict. |
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Post by henrycpa on Jun 30, 2023 7:15:23 GMT -5
It has been a lot of years since Captain Boarders told my drivers ed class this information but... He was asked how we could be an adult (18) and not allowed to consume alcohol. His answer was enlightening. The Government cannot tell a legal adult they are not allowed to consume alcohol. They can only prevent them from purchasing it. Hence, why he was at our DE class educating about drunk driving. So, my understanding is a parent or any adult can purchase an alcoholic beverage and let their 18 year old or older drink. Except it is not true. Florida is one state that does not allow it and has fines for those who do and get caught It will be very fun seeing the contortionism the FL AG Office (or local prosecutors) and SCOTUS play when they have someone of means challenge them on this in comparison to their stance on marijiana when someone with means gets caught and is willing to fight through the courts. I will buy popcorn. |
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Post by helenabear on Jun 30, 2023 10:35:59 GMT -5
Except it is not true. Florida is one state that does not allow it and has fines for those who do and get caught It will be very fun seeing the contortionism the FL AG Office (or local prosecutors) and SCOTUS play when they have someone of means challenge them on this in comparison to their stance on marijiana when someone with means gets caught and is willing to fight through the courts. I will buy popcorn. this post is better suited for the debate forum than here  |
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Post by henrycpa on Jun 30, 2023 10:47:52 GMT -5
It will be very fun seeing the contortionism the FL AG Office (or local prosecutors) and SCOTUS play when they have someone of means challenge them on this in comparison to their stance on marijiana when someone with means gets caught and is willing to fight through the courts. I will buy popcorn. this post is better suited for the debate forum than here Sorry. That really was not my intent. Just what seems like a very loose interpretation of statutes in some cases and not in others. I am actually for legalization but then I again I personally believe in let people make choices and hold them accountable to consequences of those choices. But those decisions legally will be fun to watch. |
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Post by helenabear on Jun 30, 2023 10:48:49 GMT -5
this post is better suited for the debate forum than here Sorry. That really was not my intent. Just what seems like a very loose interpretation of statutes in some cases and not in others. I am actually for legalization but then I again I personally believe in let people make choices and hold them accountable to consequences of those choices. But those decisions legally will be fun to watch. Not upset, but just stuff like this does belong there and not on this thread |
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