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Post by Adelard of Bath on Oct 7, 2023 16:30:06 GMT -5
Wife and I like to go to Liberty Tree, for the feast, not the a-la cart. But as I was looking at the menu I noticed they listed the stuff under the heading of "All you care to enjoy Bill of Fare", then under it they also listed "All you care to enjoy Plant-Based Tavern Keeper's Feast" which has a vegan meatloaf. I thought to myself, "Yum" after reading the description, and wondered if anybody knows whether when they bring the traditional meats out, they would also bring the vegan meatloaf? I guess I could always pretend I was vegan and they would bring me that and they would bring my wife the normal stuff, and we could just dig in and share, because neither of us are vegan or vegetarian necessarily.
I suspect my wife might say something like, "I'm not trying that"
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Post by Kerri jo on Oct 7, 2023 18:43:42 GMT -5
We're going next month under the assumption that both varieties will be available for our table. When we've had breakfast at Ohana in the past, we were able to get both skillets for a party of four.
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Post by disney54us on Oct 7, 2023 21:53:35 GMT -5
Wife and I like to go to Liberty Tree, for the feast, not the a-la cart. But as I was looking at the menu I noticed they listed the stuff under the heading of "All you care to enjoy Bill of Fare", then under it they also listed "All you care to enjoy Plant-Based Tavern Keeper's Feast" which has a vegan meatloaf. I thought to myself, "Yum" after reading the description, and wondered if anybody knows whether when they bring the traditional meats out, they would also bring the vegan meatloaf? I guess I could always pretend I was vegan and they would bring me that and they would bring my wife the normal stuff, and we could just dig in and share, because neither of us are vegan or vegetarian necessarily. I suspect my wife might say something like, "I'm not trying that" My first question, was but why? lol. You’re not so don’t go there. Many ‘processed’ plant based foods are just that. Processed. High in sodium and added chemicals. My gf has been a vegetarian for over forty years. She just ate real food , less anything that contained meat, fish, poultry. Potabellas are ‘meat’ alternative.for those who don’t eat meat. Any plant base I would never touch. Lucky for me, I love meat, poultry, and fish. Veggies too. Offerings of tofu or edemane great but I honestly if I was vegetarian or vegan would not want the plant based offerings. Thankfully I’m not. |
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Post by amdev on Oct 8, 2023 6:50:15 GMT -5
We were just there on our Halloween Party night and it wasn't brought out as part of the regular platter, you'd have to ask for it.
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Post by Adelard of Bath on Oct 8, 2023 10:41:29 GMT -5
I am under no assumptions that the "normal" non-vegetarian food that I eat isn't 100% GMO, sodium-laden, filled with preservatives, and highly-processed, so I'm not against the meat "alternatives," although I don't usually get them. I did get the Impossible Whopper when it came out, just to see, and I felt it was very nearly the same. Nutritional info suggests it is actually HIGHER in sodium than a normal Whopper, which is crazy.
So yeah I usually don't get that stuff because it's high-GMO and created in a lab, and I don't need it. But I saw "meatloaf with mushroom gravy" on a menu and I thought, "hey I could try that alongside the normal foods." It would be different if I had to choose ONLY the vegan food.
But I saw one review and one review only about the meatloaf, they did not like it.
On a similar note, I got the vegan pizza for fun at the New Electric Umbrella and can I just say, that vegan cheese, omg it was nasty, so nasty
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Post by disney54us on Oct 8, 2023 11:12:31 GMT -5
Mushroom gravy if good, would probably hide the taste of the meatloaf if it’s bad, lol. A good gravy can do that in many cases, it’s a god send to bad cooks everywhere.
Tried fake pepperoni once at a Whole Foods pizza cooking class. Let’s just say, skip that topping if you don’t eat the real thing. Peppers, olive's and onions are a much better substitute.
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Post by brp on Oct 8, 2023 11:35:38 GMT -5
So yeah I usually don't get that stuff because it's high-GMO and created in a lab, and I don't need it. But I saw "meatloaf with mushroom gravy" on a menu and I thought, "hey I could try that alongside the normal foods." It would be different if I had to choose ONLY the vegan food. The added chemicals and ingredients are the thing I would worry about. I do very occasionally eat Impossible (they have some at F&W, for example), but I know that it's highly processed so don't do it often.
I don't worry at all about the whole "GMO" thing. Most foods that we consider "natural" have been genetically modified along the way. Genetic modification goes back (at least) to the 1800's with Gregor Mendel's work. You'd be hard-pressed to find any food that has not been genetically modified in some way, unless you grow it yourself.
So, first of all, I don't really believe the non-GMO claims in most cases since the seeds they use were probably modified decades ago. Second, I find it has no significance and, if any, likely brought about improvements.
Cheers.
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Post by lovindisney on Oct 8, 2023 12:20:01 GMT -5
What brp said!
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Post by Adelard of Bath on Oct 8, 2023 15:51:34 GMT -5
Genetic modification goes back (at least) to the 1800's with Gregor Mendel's work. I had to look this up, and you are correct about Gregor Mendel. But I think there's a pretty big difference between a guy crossing green peas with yellow peas in his garden (organically, we might add) and the DNA-level engineering they are doing these days. Some of it is for the better, like corn that can withstand droughts better than in the past. But some is to allow the crops to be sprayed repeatedly with Round-Up and still survive, and I think most people will agree that Round-Up is not necessarily a good thing and will probably be looked back on the same way we look back at asbestos and DDT and leaded fuel. The Impossible website says they are creating a molecule by extracting a certain DNA and injecting it into yeast, and then fermenting that. Makes me think of Soylent Green. Now, I don't want anyone to think I am some kind of organic foods hippie; I ate Taco Bell today  |
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Post by disney54us on Oct 8, 2023 18:02:31 GMT -5
That description of impossible burger is enough not to eat it, there are so many alternatives that are better taste and health wise for someone who doesn’t eat meat.
As far as when you commented about the sodium content. That holds true in low fat, food items. Everything from cold cuts, hot dogs, sour cream. They have to make up for taste somehow. If you compare a regular item with the same brand low fat item the sodium is always higher. When my mother saw her cardiologist years ago, they always warn about table salt, watching sodium intake. He stated, do buy low fat labeled items, they always are higher in sodium.
I’ve always have been a label reader, it’s amazing the difference brand wise what’s added to items as simple as sour cream. Chicken, beef broths it pays to read the sodium labels. Swanson’s reduced salt still has more than Kitchen Basics regular broth.
As far as organic I do buy many items that are. Again the sodium content is much lower in organics. I add kidney beans to my Chili, No debating I know people are passionate about beans or not in chili. Kidney beans have a high sodium content whereas organic beans are at least a third less. Chicken broth. Wegmans organic is 150mg p/cup compared to anywhere from 450 to 800.
I’m by no means a granola cruncher but have always been a label reader and whatever food I’m eating if I’m cooking it. I prefer to real food even if it’s an indulgence.
Hope you enjoyed your Taco Bell. I don’t eat fast food much and I make good tacos. But sometimes I just want Taco Bell’s basic beef taco, hard shell (love the crunch) just the basic, give me two and I’m good. We use to have one close where we used to live. They are not as prominent here where we live, 40 minute drive.
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Post by Adelard of Bath on Oct 8, 2023 19:15:12 GMT -5
Hope you enjoyed your Taco Bell. I don’t eat fast food much and I make good tacos. But sometimes I just want Taco Bell’s basic beef taco, hard shell (love the crunch) just the basic, give me two and I’m good. We use to have one close where we used to live. They are not as prominent here where we live, 40 minute drive. I'm a big fan of their bean burritos, also sometimes the "chili cheese burrito". On the times I hit the Taco Bell (about a four minute drive, maybe five) I usually get two each of the aforementioned burritos and pop them straight in the freezer. Then they make easy, quick lunches. Or breakfast. |
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