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Post by Kerri jo on Apr 3, 2024 19:20:31 GMT -5
One thing that I think impacts BLT is the tiny studio, capacity 4 which really is not fit for that number of people. For many of us who started as studio-only, this was a strike. We were one and done there until we had expiring points and tried the 2 bedroom on short notice. Because of that, we have fallen in like with the resort all over again! Since then, we have stayed in both the lake view and theme park view dedicated 2 bedrooms a few times, and have an upcoming stay in a dedicated 2 bedroom standard view while on an intentional split stay between BCV and BLT. We've also stayed in a 1 bedroom theme park view when visiting as party of three. For us, it's convenient to be at BLT on our last day of vacations because we typically end our trip with the Magic Kingdom and it's so easy to walk back to our car than to wait on Disney transportation (I like to push our stay to the last minute possible). I am always tempted to add on with a BLT contract because the buy-in via resale is so low compared to how I would value the resort.
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Post by disney65 on Apr 3, 2024 20:11:05 GMT -5
My feeling is too many small pts renter who wants to dump the pts at any price, as long as they are recouping the MF, drives the prices lower.
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Post by applegrcoug on Apr 3, 2024 20:24:30 GMT -5
How do people know what is a premium resort - is it based on renter demand? I just mean that the payment from at least one broker is less for BLT than for say VFG, but it is still more than SSR. Maybe it is because it needs a refurb or something...so many of the others don't have those horrid sleeper sofas and have the murphys instead.
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Post by tomandrobin on Apr 4, 2024 7:36:00 GMT -5
Disney added the check-in counter at BLT, allowed the buses to drop off guests. But the damage was done and BLT never got that "home" feeling.
VGF gets that same bad rap from not being a truly independent resort.
Interesting history there. What was in the lobby space before it had a check-in and bell desk? When BLT opened, it was just a place to sit......There was no staff, no bell service.....nothing. The originally plans had a small gym too.
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Post by nickys on Apr 4, 2024 11:32:07 GMT -5
Going back to the discussion about the rental market I have my own thoughts on this, mainly based on posts that I’ve read asking about renting points (ie: those from total newcomers to the idea of renting DVC points) but also from a few who have recently decided not to.
With the kind of discounts Disney have been offering, either to the public or via bounce-back offers, the typical savings from renting have been reduced. Especially given the rise in the rental price per point that happened after Covid by the main brokers.
Those that followed the rental market saw the rental price on broker sites go up whilst the differential between that and how much owners were paid for those points increased. Added to that, blogs that followed the rental market also focussed on the huge mark-up that confirmed reservations were being advertised at by the brokers. $30 per point wasn’t out of the ordinary for some of those reservations. One of the main brokers actively encourage owners to book reservations rather than rent the “old-fashioned” way because the broker can make more money. I think all that combined to put people off the brokers to a significant degree. And many owners grumbled about it publicly too and vowed to rent privately instead, leading to a perception that there was a dearth of points available via the brokers anyway.
With the realisation of potentially losing money if they had to cancel (which was brought into focus because of Covid despite the actual risk not having changed), renters also became more wary of renting privately, when for a bit more they could book direct with Disney and know they could change their plans without losing out. A potential saving of $300-$400 was seen as not enough to outweigh the risks.
Even more experienced renters are going to prefer to rent from people they “know”, that they see as “safe”. When I had 2-3 years worth of points to rent out because of Covid, I did so to people who had seen me on the Touring Plans forum for several years. The first person simply messaged me to ask if I’d rent the points to her, after reading my sad post after having to cancel our trip. She then posted a trip report including the planning process, with all the uncertainty around Covid (she was from Canada and this was in October 2020), in which I booked BWV and waitlisted BCV for her. That effectively acted as my testimonial! After that I only had to say I have some extra points and I got inundated with requests to rent them. And I still get asked. Now if those people can’t find someone they feel they can trust to rent from, they won’t rent. They would rather pay more to Disney.
So I think the rental market has changed. And to a large extent the brokers are reaping what they started. The more they mess about with owners, the harder it will be for them to get the points to satisfy their potential renters. And the more they inflate the prices of the confirmed reservations, the more it moves to being a kind of last minute dot com type of market, where people snap up confirmed reservations within a few weeks of their stay as the price drops. Neither of which is conducive to attracting new renters, which is still where most people start off renting points.
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Post by tomandrobin on Apr 4, 2024 14:06:39 GMT -5
There are more commercial renters (brokers) than at point before in DVC history.
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Post by bakerworld on Apr 5, 2024 9:01:34 GMT -5
I didn't realize that some rentals are up to $25/p - that's high.
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Post by applegrcoug on Apr 5, 2024 16:41:11 GMT -5
I have also noticed the spread...
A large broker based in Canada charges $20-25 USD per point depending on resort, room size, etc etc...and pays back $16-18 USD. That is quite the spread for something like Beach Club.
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