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Post by nickys on Apr 26, 2024 6:52:30 GMT -5
Nothing was built to go with the Cabins. And right there is another major problem. There are literally no DVC amenities for the Cabins at FW, no DVC exclusive pool, no community hall, nothing that turns it into a DVC resort except for shiny new cabins. I guess that’s why I hoped it was a community hall, something, anything by way of a DVC amenity. Because without it they are screwed as far as sales go. And yet with zero amenities, it has the highest maintenance fees.
Look at the last "new" resort and what came with the resort. The Cabins literally has nothing to compare. Heck, The Poly Tower will have a quick service/coffee bar, DVC pool, check-in. It might have a community center. It will not have a gym.
I assumed that the high mfs were to pay for the cabins to be replaced in 25 years or so. |
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Post by helenabear on Apr 26, 2024 6:57:40 GMT -5
Nothing was built to go with the Cabins. And right there is another major problem. There are literally no DVC amenities for the Cabins at FW, no DVC exclusive pool, no community hall, nothing that turns it into a DVC resort except for shiny new cabins. I guess that’s why I hoped it was a community hall, something, anything by way of a DVC amenity. Because without it they are screwed as far as sales go. And yet with zero amenities, it has the highest maintenance fees.
Look at the last "new" resort and what came with the resort. The Cabins literally has nothing to compare. Heck, The Poly Tower will have a quick service/coffee bar, DVC pool, check-in. It might have a community center. It will not have a gym.
Not to mention everything else that the village has. There is speculation on if there will be a lounge with one of the open window layouts. Some wonder if they'll do CL or not. The gym at least is super close (they've shared the spa gym with GF as long as I can remember) and not often busy since it's so far from a lot of the GF resort. Only the original DVC rooms for GF are closer. And yet with zero amenities, it has the highest maintenance fees.
Look at the last "new" resort and what came with the resort. The Cabins literally has nothing to compare. Heck, The Poly Tower will have a quick service/coffee bar, DVC pool, check-in. It might have a community center. It will not have a gym.
I assumed that the high mfs were to pay for the cabins to be replaced in 25 years or so. That's my assumption. Also no other regular resort rooms to help absorb extra costs with upkeep. Transportation will at least be shared by other campsites. Level each separate campsite pays would be interesting to know. |
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Post by fuzzylogic on Apr 26, 2024 8:02:49 GMT -5
We had the other many-page thread about the coming of the cabins and it was unanimous that we knew they were not going to be popular. Someone called these the first Moderate of DVC-- I'd call them the first Value. I think of Moderates like SSR and OKW... and these cabins are not on the amenity level of SSR/OKW or even PO/CBR. Those have amenities, boats, gondolas, access to Disney Springs, fun pools, food court, w/d. The cabins are the one place you need a w/d... you're in the woods with a long walk everywhere.
Cabins were ok for anyone who wanted to glamp or get a cheap room at the cost of time. That's not DVC. With DVC you put money up front to lock in a good location next to the parks. Here you have no location, amenities, feature pool, w/d, and you're a double-bus to get anywhere. This won't appeal to buyers who are able and wanting to invest in something like DVC. And it will stuff up the 7-mo trade in at valuable resorts.
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Post by helenabear on Apr 26, 2024 8:23:30 GMT -5
To me SSR and OKW both have significantly more than any moderate I've been at. They're definitely not moderate to me. Neither has a food court like the moderates do. I just spent a decent amount of time at CBR checking it out while staying at Riviera. I'd be very hard pressed to do CBR again. Not so with OKW or SSR.
I think the cabins are viewed as moderate due to how Disney labeled them. Better than a moderate room but limited amenities.
I cannot even imagine CFW resale prices. Might make VB look expensive
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Post by Adelard of Bath on Apr 26, 2024 8:26:23 GMT -5
Mention of the StarCruiser thing makes me wonder something I've always wondered...after the fun and games were done (the shenanigans proved to be too expensive to sustain their operation) why wasn't it just turned into a "Star Wars Hotel"? I have to imagine that they could have a nightly rate of at least places like Riverside, Coronado etc, provide the shuttle to some backdoor entrance to Star Wars Land in HS, and it's easy to assume it would be fairly booked up easily.
The fact that they ~haven't~ done this makes me think, again, "What do they know that I don't."
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Post by helenabear on Apr 26, 2024 8:39:34 GMT -5
Mention of the StarCruiser thing makes me wonder something I've always wondered...after the fun and games were done (the shenanigans proved to be too expensive to sustain their operation) why wasn't it just turned into a "Star Wars Hotel"? I have to imagine that they could have a nightly rate of at least places like Riverside, Coronado etc, provide the shuttle to some backdoor entrance to Star Wars Land in HS, and it's easy to assume it would be fairly booked up easily. The fact that they ~haven't~ done this makes me think, again, "What do they know that I don't." As a huge Star Wars fan, I wouldn't want to stay there at all. The rooms were small, they didn't resemble much of anything from Star Wars really. They actually reminded people of Fifth Element. Though for some they did hail SW but not in a good way... the prison in Andor. |
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Post by Adelard of Bath on Apr 26, 2024 8:51:50 GMT -5
As a huge Star Wars fan, I wouldn't want to stay there at all. The rooms were small, they didn't resemble much of anything from Star Wars really. They actually reminded people of Fifth Element. Though for some they did hail SW but not in a good way... the prison in Andor. Well maybe that's the thing "they know that I don't"...I am not a Star Wars fan so I would have missed those takes. Hilariously, "Star Wars" makes me think of going on "Star Tours" when I was young and "Star Tours" was new. I see the movies on tv or walk through the land, and my brain is reminded of how much I like the ride "Star Tours." It's backward, see... |
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Post by johnb on Apr 26, 2024 12:23:19 GMT -5
Mention of the StarCruiser thing makes me wonder something I've always wondered...after the fun and games were done (the shenanigans proved to be too expensive to sustain their operation) why wasn't it just turned into a "Star Wars Hotel"? I have to imagine that they could have a nightly rate of at least places like Riverside, Coronado etc, provide the shuttle to some backdoor entrance to Star Wars Land in HS, and it's easy to assume it would be fairly booked up easily. The fact that they ~haven't~ done this makes me think, again, "What do they know that I don't." They should make it a Star Wars themed "hang out" with Adventurer's Club interactivity. For a price, guest can go there, eat/drink, be involved in, or just watch, interactive SW stories. |
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Post by pooh bears mom on Apr 27, 2024 19:38:10 GMT -5
I just don't see how anyone in disney thought the cabins were a great idea for DVC?? We will probably try it as we try every resort, but the cabins are really a niche. This group is not fully reflective of DVC owners on the whole. Also, another huge miss was not having two full bathrooms or washing machine and dryer. Maintenance Fees are also ridiculously high. I think they are going to offer huge discounts there - possibly under 100/point. but with the high fees, it is still troublesome. Also with the resale restrictions, resale on these will be really tough, so I wonder, how many buyers will there be? This will take twenty years to sell out. - maybe longer because if you wait twenty years - then you are now competing with the 2042 resorts in 18 years.
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Post by bakerworld on Apr 28, 2024 8:14:21 GMT -5
IMO, the new layout of the DVC FW Cabins is another miss. The older cabins had the bathroom between the living area and the bedroom, which gave the parents a chance for a break or naps for the littles. The current cabin configuration has the bedroom next to the living area with the TV mounted to the same wall as the bunks. Did a childless architect plan these?
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Post by helenabear on Apr 29, 2024 7:01:41 GMT -5
IMO, the new layout of the DVC FW Cabins is another miss. The older cabins had the bathroom between the living area and the bedroom, which gave the parents a chance for a break or naps for the littles. The current cabin configuration has the bedroom next to the living area with the TV mounted to the same wall as the bunks. Did a childless architect plan these? Ditching the tub won't be great for some as well. |
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Post by tomandrobin on Apr 29, 2024 7:12:12 GMT -5
I love this from the DVC website.......
One thing that sets Disney Vacation Club apart is its commitment to providing deluxe-level accommodations that are in excellent condition.
The Cabins do not fit the Disney definition of a Deluxe-level accommodation.
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Post by tomandrobin on Apr 29, 2024 7:18:42 GMT -5
IMO, the new layout of the DVC FW Cabins is another miss. The older cabins had the bathroom between the living area and the bedroom, which gave the parents a chance for a break or naps for the littles. The current cabin configuration has the bedroom next to the living area with the TV mounted to the same wall as the bunks. Did a childless architect plan these? Ditching the tub won't be great for some as well. For me and Robin, we don't like the tubs. However, almost every family I know who has little kids use the bath tubs.
Our oldest grandson will be 11 this year, he stopped using the tubs in WDW 2 years ago. The youngest grandson will be 9 and as of December, still enjoys his WDW tub time.
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Post by tomandrobin on Apr 29, 2024 7:23:29 GMT -5
There is speculation on if there will be a lounge with one of the open window layouts. Some wonder if they'll do CL or not. That's my assumption. Also no other regular resort rooms to help absorb extra costs with upkeep. Transportation will at least be shared by other campsites. Level each separate campsite pays would be interesting to know. I do not know this for a fact, but I have a suspicion that prior to the DVC conversion, most people booking those cabins had a car. Owners at existing DVC resorts tend to drive less, fly more then cash paying guests.
There will not be CL at the Tower.
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Post by helenabear on Apr 29, 2024 8:00:26 GMT -5
Ditching the tub won't be great for some as well. For me and Robin, we don't like the tubs. However, almost every family I know who has little kids use the bath tubs.
Our oldest grandson will be 11 this year, he stopped using the tubs in WDW 2 years ago. The youngest grandson will be 9 and as of December, still enjoys his WDW tub time.
I know many who have kids who need tubs. My 16yo hasn't had a bath in maybe 13 years or more. For us it isn't an issue but for many it would be. I have other issues with the cabins though. There is speculation on if there will be a lounge with one of the open window layouts. Some wonder if they'll do CL or not. That's my assumption. Also no other regular resort rooms to help absorb extra costs with upkeep. Transportation will at least be shared by other campsites. Level each separate campsite pays would be interesting to know. I do not know this for a fact, but I have a suspicion that prior to the DVC conversion, most people booking those cabins had a car. Owners at existing DVC resorts tend to drive less, fly more then cash paying guests.
There will not be CL at the Tower.
I didn't think, but it was a speculation somewhere. I think on a site that was convinced they'd be separate associations so huge boulder of salt. But the idea of a pay lounge or restaurant isn't too much of a stretch for me. Resales are nuts there now. Only 13 contracts total available for all of PVB. Once a permit for the tower was under the same number as the rest of the DVC work goes under it's been a madhouse. |
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