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Post by disney54us on May 19, 2024 22:44:01 GMT -5
Something I think people are missing in the convo about PVB Tower is the reason they needed to do this. The bungalows really messed up the points system, as they are almost always empty. Poly needed more rooms and the studio only was likely a mistake. So in my opinion, they needed to add on. Problem is, they had no other room to go long with long houses, so they had to go up with a tower. All of our points are Poly and we love the resort more than any other. The vibe, the tiki torches, the beach… we are being very open minded about the tower. Will we stay there? Maybe. We shall see what the points look like. But… we are thrilled that we will get some new options, food and something different. Very glad it is part of the original association. I too thought the view did not change from the Poly side, you can barely see it from most of the resort. But I can also see how it totally changed for other resorts like VGF. We are hopeful for some cool new things, like another pool, food options, more shopping and new room types that don’t break the points chart. Have to say as much as DVC owners thought the bungalows were not booked, they were. Many times checking availability. I usually hit all resorts, I was surprised that they were not available or for length of stay. I was not necessarily looking to book there, lol but just that throughout the years many times they were not available. Proved the DVC, mentality of nobody is going to book them. Probably not. I’m sure most were cash stays. As much as I love the bungalows. It has taken away from Hawaii concierge building. We loved our stays there. But on the ground floor. There is no view for those who are spending….? I can only believe in this date and time close to $1000 p night. The upstairs doesn’t have a sitting balcony, so we were only first floor only. That view is gone, sadly. But so are the hammocks on the beach. Long time ago, the good ole days. |
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Post by helenabear on May 20, 2024 5:25:46 GMT -5
Something I think people are missing in the convo about PVB Tower is the reason they needed to do this. The bungalows really messed up the points system, as they are almost always empty. Poly needed more rooms and the studio only was likely a mistake. So in my opinion, they needed to add on. Problem is, they had no other room to go long with long houses, so they had to go up with a tower. All of our points are Poly and we love the resort more than any other. The vibe, the tiki torches, the beach… we are being very open minded about the tower. Will we stay there? Maybe. We shall see what the points look like. But… we are thrilled that we will get some new options, food and something different. Very glad it is part of the original association. I too thought the view did not change from the Poly side, you can barely see it from most of the resort. But I can also see how it totally changed for other resorts like VGF. We are hopeful for some cool new things, like another pool, food options, more shopping and new room types that don’t break the points chart. I see this all the time. The bungalows are not almost always empty. They remain as solidly booked as other rooms at about 90-95% capacity. Same with the cabins. For my next trip I was looking at availability months ago due to BWV refurb being way behind schedule. Neither cabins nor bungalows had any rooms. I just kept crossing my fingers they wouldn't call to move me. However studio only was not best either. I know why they did it but bleh. Many PVB owners never even stay at studios. They cannot afford it in terms of points given the high cost compared to other studios. We do use PVB for shorter trips now but thankfully will be able to do more next year. |
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Post by nickys on May 20, 2024 7:13:38 GMT -5
Do you think the studios in the Tower will be a different booking category from those in the longhouses?
I’m inclined to say yes, partly for the implication for the 2-bed lock-offs. Plus I think the floor plans show a different layout with regard to bathrooms.
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Post by tomandrobin on May 20, 2024 8:22:37 GMT -5
Yes and no....
There definitely will be duo studios and theme park view studios, so those are for sure different. But I am curious if they will add "tower" studio to its name to squeeze more points out of the unit. That seems to be Disney's way.....squeeze every drop out of a product.
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Post by BWV Dreamin on May 20, 2024 10:38:45 GMT -5
So I am learning that there may be a big restructure of the points chart, but not until 2026. Questions;
If the reallocation is to lower the bungalows, how bad might the current studios point chart get increased? It’s already high.
Would the studios in the tower have the same points chart as the current long house studios?
Need to see if buying a FW now would circumvent those reallocations?
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Post by nickys on May 20, 2024 12:17:46 GMT -5
Yes and no....
There definitely will be duo studios and theme park view studios, so those are for sure different. But I am curious if they will add "tower" studio to its name to squeeze more points out of the unit. That seems to be Disney's way.....squeeze every drop out of a product.
There wouldn’t necessarily have be a points difference. I think the GFV resort studios have the same points charts as the deluxe studios. Same for “near HH” at OKW. But if I was booking it would be nice to be able to choose the location. |
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Post by helenabear on May 20, 2024 12:37:28 GMT -5
Do you think the studios in the Tower will be a different booking category from those in the longhouses? I’m inclined to say yes, partly for the implication for the 2-bed lock-offs. Plus I think the floor plans show a different layout with regard to bathrooms. Yes like at CCV. Only due to bathroom configurations as seen on the floor plans. Point wise no is my guess for same view category. I would guess tower tub room, tower shower shower room, longhouse room. Then give room view. |
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Post by helenabear on May 20, 2024 12:42:50 GMT -5
So I am learning that there may be a big restructure of the points chart, but not until 2026. Questions; If the reallocation is to lower the bungalows, how bad might the current studios point chart get increased? It’s already high. Would the studios in the tower have the same points chart as the current long house studios? Need to see if buying a FW now would circumvent those reallocations? Unknown if there will be restructuring with certainty. Only that they will wait if there is. They adjusted in 2021 and maybe they did or didn't with the tower in mind (be real in 2020 they knew this was coming) They already lowered bungalows and raised studios. PVB studios used to almost categorically yes be lower than VGF. They're not now. No idea on points but my guess is yes similar or same. Save duos. |
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Post by jackson6 on May 22, 2024 16:54:05 GMT -5
 Bungalows do book up. They do not appear to be super popular with PVB owners though. |
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Post by helenabear on May 22, 2024 20:25:19 GMT -5
View AttachmentBungalows do book up. They do not appear to be super popular with PVB owners though. PVB itself isn't as popular with owners. They had the super low new member buy in. Many bought intending to stay elsewhere. |
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Post by jawfish on May 22, 2024 22:49:07 GMT -5
We own PVB and prefer to stay there but must admit we do stretch points at SSR often.
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Post by tomandrobin on May 23, 2024 5:30:34 GMT -5
View AttachmentBungalows do book up. They do not appear to be super popular with PVB owners though. PVB itself isn't as popular with owners. They had the super low new member buy in. Many bought intending to stay elsewhere. We own PVB and prefer to stay there but must admit we do stretch points at SSR often. If you go back to the original MO, you will find many posts by me stating similar usage at Poly. DVC was selling way too many "minimum" contracts, that could only be used for a few days stay at Poly. Between that and the lack of 1 & 2 bedroom units, The 7-month window at the existing resorts got destroyed. Than add in the huge broker rental market now....it bad trying to find a reservation under 5 months out. |
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Post by helenabear on May 23, 2024 5:53:08 GMT -5
PVB itself isn't as popular with owners. They had the super low new member buy in. Many bought intending to stay elsewhere. We own PVB and prefer to stay there but must admit we do stretch points at SSR often. If you go back to the original MO, you will find many posts by me stating similar usage at Poly. DVC was selling way too many "minimum" contracts, that could only be used for a few days stay at Poly. Between that and the lack of 1 & 2 bedroom units, The 7-month window at the existing resorts got destroyed. Than add in the huge broker rental market now....it bad trying to find a reservation under 5 months out. Studios still remain a massive problem too. I see a lot of unhappy people at 7 month mark. I'm surprised SSR and OKW aren't sold out sooner. I noticed AKV availability at 7 months has really dropped. The people who bought such small contacts to go every few years at a different resort but home are unhappy for sure. This was definitely an issue for DVC. People complain that they raised initial buy in but I see why. So many complain about availability (majority studios) and when asked why they don't book their home resort, they either can't afford it or it's Aulani. |
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Post by jawfish on May 23, 2024 23:16:10 GMT -5
PVB itself isn't as popular with owners. They had the super low new member buy in. Many bought intending to stay elsewhere. We own PVB and prefer to stay there but must admit we do stretch points at SSR often. If you go back to the original MO, you will find many posts by me stating similar usage at Poly. DVC was selling way too many "minimum" contracts, that could only be used for a few days stay at Poly. Between that and the lack of 1 & 2 bedroom units, The 7-month window at the existing resorts got destroyed. Than add in the huge broker rental market now....it bad trying to find a reservation under 5 months out. How do you go back to original MO? They shut that down and no history. A shame as there was such valuable info there. |
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Post by mcd on May 24, 2024 14:12:01 GMT -5
View AttachmentBungalows do book up. They do not appear to be super popular with PVB owners though. PVB itself isn't as popular with owners. They had the super low new member buy in. Many bought intending to stay elsewhere. I bought almost all my points at PVB, and our favorite resort to stay at is PVB. Strange that it puts us in the minority. |
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