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Post by pooh bears mom on Feb 28, 2023 15:51:48 GMT -5
Is it just me? I really am not excited about any of the live action remakes. I did see Beauty and the Beast and Alladin, but felt neither measured up to the animated original. 2-D animation is able to capture feelings and emotions so much better than any real-life person ever could. I never saw the lion king, because to me-the lion king was a classic that never should have been touched. Now the Little Mermaid and Stitch. How can you bring Sebastian or Stitch into live action? Even if they were to digitally animate it with 3-D animation. 3D animation still does not capture emotions like 2D animation. There is a reason Japanese Anime is really taking over. I myself have become a huge fan (my kids made me watch it-and I am now a huge fan of OnePiece, Attack on Titan, HunterXHunter, Naruto, and Yona of the Dawn. I really appreciate how beautiful 2 D animation actually is and the power of 2D animation in bringing a story to life. I really wish Disney would dump all the live action movies and go back to their roots and creativity - Lets see some really good new 2D animated films. How i wish they would return the animation courtyard to Hollywood studios
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Post by helenabear on Feb 28, 2023 15:58:46 GMT -5
I am not a huge fan of remakes. BATB fell flat though I adored some select characters in it. Cinderella was fine but meh. I actually adored Aladdin. I thought TLK was blah. Little mermaid I will watch but not care much one way or another. I do really enjoy Halle Bailey so I expect her to be okay at least. It looked like animal characters will be CGI.
I am interested in the new Wendy & Peter Pan movie. I don't mind those - spin offs.
Not sure I see what you are saying with Anime. But, it was super popular when I was a teen as it is now - it is a nice genre though. However sometimes the stories were repeated as well LOL
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Post by Brian5581 on Feb 28, 2023 16:13:50 GMT -5
I enjoy the live action movies simply because I choose not to compare to the original versions. Yes, the story is usually almost exactly the same (except for like a Maleficent), but fortunately I can still view it as a separate work.
That said, new would indeed be nice. Unfortunately recently the new hasn't made the money, which of course is why the remakes shall continue until they don't.
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Post by nickys on Feb 28, 2023 16:40:09 GMT -5
I too just don’t see the attraction of live action remakes.
For me, the Disney classic movies don’t need remaking. I see it as laziness on Disney’s part. I know Disney do live action movies, but it just seems like a money grab to re-do old ones.
That said, I also hate the look of the new animation, like the Incredibles etc. It just make me shudder. Probably explains why I haven’t seen many of the “recent” ones. I did see Soul and quite liked it.
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Post by Eeyorelover22 on Feb 28, 2023 20:49:27 GMT -5
I liked Cruella but it was like Maleficent. I would like some new movies though. I’m glad they are on D+. I would not pay to see them at the movies.
I didn’t know about Stitch.
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Post by krisephillips on Mar 1, 2023 10:19:54 GMT -5
The live remakes have been hit and miss for us too. We enjoyed BATB and Cinderella but did not care for Aladdin and Lion King. We will go and see Little Mermaid as my daughter LOVES Ariel so I am hoping for good things!
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Post by jflatto on Mar 1, 2023 14:18:00 GMT -5
Bigger picture answer is because the production companies are skittish about trying to be creative. Instead, let's make Star Wars 29, Marvel 34, Titanic 3 because films cost so much money so the companies are risk adverse. Making a sequel or a live action remake of an animation is "safer" (at least from the perspective of senior management and the stakeholders) than producing an "original idea".
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Post by Brian5581 on Mar 1, 2023 16:25:03 GMT -5
Bigger picture answer is because the production companies are skittish about trying to be creative. Instead, let's make Star Wars 29, Marvel 34, Titanic 3 because films cost so much money so the companies are risk adverse. Making a sequel or a live action remake of an animation is "safer" (at least from the perspective of senior management and the stakeholders) than producing an "original idea". Very, very true.
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Post by Wiltony on Mar 1, 2023 18:26:04 GMT -5
Money. Lots and lots and lots of money.
All of these live actions remakes make tons of money.
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Post by pooh bears mom on Mar 1, 2023 23:27:45 GMT -5
Bigger picture answer is because the production companies are skittish about trying to be creative. Instead, let's make Star Wars 29, Marvel 34, Titanic 3 because films cost so much money so the companies are risk adverse. Making a sequel or a live action remake of an animation is "safer" (at least from the perspective of senior management and the stakeholders) than producing an "original idea". Very, very true. True and sad. Star Wars 7 8 and 9 made me hate star wars. I am tired of live action remakes, and Marvel 45 ect. I really want something new and creative. When anything new comes out and does well, disney buys it, and innovation is lost.
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Post by disnydad on Mar 2, 2023 5:45:04 GMT -5
Our 5 yo grandson has a thumbsdown for the live remakes.
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Post by TexasChick on Mar 2, 2023 10:53:32 GMT -5
The only live action I’ve liked is Maleficent. Kids and I haven’t liked any of the others. The problem with the newer original movies is that the stories just plain stink. They aren’t interesting. My kids haven’t liked any of them. I think the last original Disney movie we liked was Inside Out or Wreck It Ralph. With the live action remakes, I just think it’s boring to watch a remake that doesn’t change the story at all but has CGI and live actors instead of animation.
For a movie to be considered a success, the general rule of thumb is that it needs to make 3x its production budget. This is because the studios only get a portion of the revenue from the movies in ticket sales, merchandise, etc. Also, marketing is very expensive. If you look up many of the recent Disney movies, many of them have actually lost money or barely broken even which jives with what has been reported as one of the major things that Iger is trying to fix.
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Post by brp on Mar 2, 2023 10:57:56 GMT -5
I know we've seen Malificent. Beyond that, I don't recall which, if any, of these I've seen. And I think that says something (about the movies, me...or both ) Cheers.
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Post by jflatto on Mar 2, 2023 11:23:59 GMT -5
We enjoyed the various Marvel Movies up to Avengers Endgame but haven't cared about Black Panther 2, Ant Man 3 (or is it 29.5). We are tired of trying to keep track of all the moving pieces and as importantly, poorer stories because each story has to tie into other movies which limits the story possibilities. It is one thing such as a television show (Babylon 5 has interlocking plots over its 5 year run and was very well done) but with movies coming out months apart and focused on different characters, it is just no longer enjoyable to us.
More bean counters running studios and less risk tolerance because the cost of each movie has grown dramatically (ignoring studio accounting which I understand makes mob accounting look honest). Most movies have to be an "event" or tentpole. Thus, let's repeat what we have done (and save cost since the animated movie provides the structure for the live action remake) and not take a risk.
While "independent" movies come out, they tend not to be the focus of the studio advertising and what is pushed in front of moviegoers attention. I have seen previews of movies when going to a theater for movies not coming out for 15 months; I think that is a relatively new.
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Post by brp on Mar 2, 2023 11:40:36 GMT -5
We enjoyed the various Marvel Movies up to Avengers Endgame but haven't cared about Black Panther 2, Ant Man 3 (or is it 29.5). Ooh, I had not counted these in the live action remakes since I thought this was about remakes of older animated films. I consdier these separate and not a Disney thing at all. I consider these Marvel and Stan Lee, something that Disney happened to buy.
Cheers.
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