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Post by Adelard of Bath on Oct 21, 2024 10:08:30 GMT -5
Waiting for appliance guys to show up!
Haven't received any phone calls yet, though, telling me when. Stove and fridge have been sitting tucked away in my garage for over two years; finally it is their day to shine!
Supposedly.
I got the garage nicely emptied so they can get to the appliances, I moved three of the cars, I cleaned up all the leaves and junk all over and up the front walk to the house...I'm all set.
I would just as soon do it myself but the weight of these two might be above my paygrade. I have moved the old fridge and stove around no problem, but these two new ones, well I can shimmy the fridge (in it's box) across the concrete floor a little bit, but the stove is on a pallet and I can barely make it wiggle. So, installation was included so who am I to turn that down I guess.
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Post by brp on Oct 21, 2024 12:03:28 GMT -5
We have a WiFi thermostat and set between 65 and 74 during the day and 55 to 74 at night, year round. When we are away, it is set to 55 - 77 24 hours a day since we can let it get colder/warmer when we're not around.
Cheers.
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Post by Adelard of Bath on Oct 21, 2024 21:24:40 GMT -5
You can keep the 74 but I'll take the 5, I loves me a huge pile of heavy blankets. Nose gets cold, though. I camped in the snow a few times in one of those mummy sleeping bags, that works well but your nose still feels it. |
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Post by Adelard of Bath on Oct 22, 2024 7:55:40 GMT -5
Okay my wife doesn't ask me anymore, but she used to ask why I always felt the need to do everything myself, like every single project. Appliance guys come, two very nice guys who did a very nice job. Except the water wasn't turned on behind the fridge, to be honest it's stupid that the shutoff is behind the appliance anyways. So now that's gotta get fixed. And the gas stove, I said "This gap supposed to be like this?" as I put my hand behind the stove, between the wall and the stove. It is designed to be pushed up flush. He says, "unfortunately I can't get it any closer, I've got the gas hose in there but I don't know if it's the plug or what" so I just say "okay" and tell myself I'll figure it out later. So I managed to get a picture, finally, although I don't expect anyone to know what this means:  Basically.....two things. When I was building the space, the stove manufacturer had VERY specific locations where the gas fitting had to be, and the electrical outlet. The thing is meant to go flush and there is no way that can happen the way he's got everything jumbled down there, and the hose needs to be routed a different way. Second thing, this one is interesting - Manufacturer includes an "anti-tip bracket" that gets screwed to the floor or the wall in a certain location, it is layed out clearly in the instructions. Knowing this bracket probably gets often overlooked if they ship it in the hardware bag, it is zip-tied to the back of the stove with giant BRIGHT RED zip-ties, in such a way that if you don't install the bracket, it will be in the way when you try to push the stove up to the wall. Well guess what's pushed up against the wall. So now this stuff has to be fixed, I want to do it because I know what needs to be done and no problem, but wife wants the appliance people to do it so now all these phone calls need to happen and appointments need to be made etc, and unfortunately the appliance store is from a nearby large metro area and thus has multiple call layers which is super annoying. So she gets to do all the calling. I could be fixing that right now but oh well. |
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Post by brp on Oct 22, 2024 9:09:47 GMT -5
You can keep the 74 but I'll take the 5, I loves me a huge pile of heavy blankets. Nose gets cold, though. I camped in the snow a few times in one of those mummy sleeping bags, that works well but your nose still feels it. That was a 55, and I fixed it 
It's funny how I would normally find 74 too warm in many places (FL, for example). Here, even when it's hot, it's dry, and coming into the house at 74 actually feels good. It's gotten to about 70 overnight these past days (sliding door in the bedroom open) and that is just right.
Cheers.
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Post by Brian5581 on Oct 22, 2024 16:10:02 GMT -5
We shall see… To be clear I only have air conditioning on, heat never. Just thermostat constantly on 68. Brian - Steelers/Jets - I think you probably have this one...... No ma'am... DH left off watching football, disgusted with the Eagles score at the 1st qtr, to wash our car. The Eagles went on to win the game which I told him just proves he should wash a car during Eagles games so the Eagles continue to win. Ha. Good luck with that. Waiting for appliance guys to show up! Haven't received any phone calls yet, though, telling me when. Stove and fridge have been sitting tucked away in my garage for over two years; finally it is their day to shine! Supposedly. I got the garage nicely emptied so they can get to the appliances, I moved three of the cars, I cleaned up all the leaves and junk all over and up the front walk to the house...I'm all set. I would just as soon do it myself but the weight of these two might be above my paygrade. I have moved the old fridge and stove around no problem, but these two new ones, well I can shimmy the fridge (in it's box) across the concrete floor a little bit, but the stove is on a pallet and I can barely make it wiggle. So, installation was included so who am I to turn that down I guess. Ugh, sorry they failed you. Hope you can get it fixed soon. |
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Post by Brian5581 on Oct 22, 2024 16:10:35 GMT -5
Sorry about your Mets, Bruce. Will be interesting to see what they do (or don't do) in the offseason.
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Post by Brian5581 on Oct 22, 2024 16:17:17 GMT -5
Freaking Jets absolutely suck once again... Ugh.
Congratulations to your Steelers, Patty.
Congratulations to your Broncos, Tony.
Sorry about your Patriots, Nancy, Kristin, and Fess.
Congratulations to your Eagles, Janet and Janet.
Sorry about your Giants, Mike and Mike.
Congratulations to your Lions, Dan, Kim, Pam, and Dave.
Congratulations to your Colts, Karl.
Sorry about your Dolphins, Kim.
Congratulations to your Commanders, Hope.
Congratulations to your Ravens, Tom.
Sorry about your Chargers, Amy and Mike.
Bears were off this weekend.
Cowboys were off this weekend.
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Post by Adelard of Bath on Oct 23, 2024 10:58:48 GMT -5
Ugh, sorry they failed you. Hope you can get it fixed soon. Taking care of it myself. It's the best way! |
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Post by kzrooster on Oct 23, 2024 12:38:14 GMT -5
Freaking Jets absolutely suck once again... Ugh. Congratulations to your Steelers, Patty. Congratulations to your Broncos, Tony. Sorry about your Patriots, Nancy, Kristin, and Fess. Congratulations to your Eagles, Janet and Janet. Sorry about your Giants, Mike and Mike. Congratulations to your Lions, Dan, Kim, Pam, and Dave. Congratulations to your Colts, Karl. Sorry about your Dolphins, Kim. Congratulations to your Commanders, Hope. Congratulations to your Ravens, Tom. Sorry about your Chargers, Amy and Mike. Bears were off this weekend. Cowboys were off this weekend. Thanks Brian! |
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Post by kzrooster on Oct 23, 2024 12:43:14 GMT -5
Okay my wife doesn't ask me anymore, but she used to ask why I always felt the need to do everything myself, like every single project. Appliance guys come, two very nice guys who did a very nice job. Except the water wasn't turned on behind the fridge, to be honest it's stupid that the shutoff is behind the appliance anyways. So now that's gotta get fixed. And the gas stove, I said "This gap supposed to be like this?" as I put my hand behind the stove, between the wall and the stove. It is designed to be pushed up flush. He says, "unfortunately I can't get it any closer, I've got the gas hose in there but I don't know if it's the plug or what" so I just say "okay" and tell myself I'll figure it out later. So I managed to get a picture, finally, although I don't expect anyone to know what this means: Basically.....two things. When I was building the space, the stove manufacturer had VERY specific locations where the gas fitting had to be, and the electrical outlet. The thing is meant to go flush and there is no way that can happen the way he's got everything jumbled down there, and the hose needs to be routed a different way. Second thing, this one is interesting - Manufacturer includes an "anti-tip bracket" that gets screwed to the floor or the wall in a certain location, it is layed out clearly in the instructions. Knowing this bracket probably gets often overlooked if they ship it in the hardware bag, it is zip-tied to the back of the stove with giant BRIGHT RED zip-ties, in such a way that if you don't install the bracket, it will be in the way when you try to push the stove up to the wall. Well guess what's pushed up against the wall. So now this stuff has to be fixed, I want to do it because I know what needs to be done and no problem, but wife wants the appliance people to do it so now all these phone calls need to happen and appointments need to be made etc, and unfortunately the appliance store is from a nearby large metro area and thus has multiple call layers which is super annoying. So she gets to do all the calling. I could be fixing that right now but oh well. I know exactly what all that is..... Often the homeowner will request the anti tip bracket not be installed....? I do it anyway. The gas line can be a bugger to move sometime but it needs to be where the instructions tell you or the stove won't go all the way back.... You already know all that though. I definitely would do it myself. In Michigan I believe it's code to put any shut off in sight of the appliance. ie waterline to icemaker. There is a really nice recessed unit you can install but the valve is still behind the refrigerator. I always try to put the shutoff under the sink. |
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Post by brp on Oct 23, 2024 12:52:35 GMT -5
That stove picture is frightening Adelard of Bath. We have a gas cooktop. When I was replacing that, it was easy since the gas line is in an open space under the cooktop (pot/pan storage). Since the value was in good shape, I just had to turn it off and connect the new cooktop with yellow PTFE for a seal. Much easier than what you have to deal with. Cheers. |
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Post by Adelard of Bath on Oct 24, 2024 10:33:52 GMT -5
There is a really nice recessed unit you can install but the valve is still behind the refrigerator. I always try to put the shutoff under the sink. Yeah I put in that recessed unit, it is quite nice, the pex goes into it and there's a water hammer thing and a cute lil valve. The pex is in the open in the basement below it, I'm considering cutting in a valve right below, which is in the ceiling of the laundry room. Code here for the gas line is the valve has to be behind the stove. How dumb is that. Actually it could be in one of the cabinets on either side, but whatever. So I compromised and the shutoff valve IS behind the stove, but there is a second one down where that pipe tee's off the supply in the laundry room. You can just walk up to it by the furnace and water heater and wheep! Off. I pulled the stove out and did everything correctly, including mounting the anti-tip bracket, it's so odd that people would tell you not to put it in. Oh well. After some monkey business with the yellow flexible line, I got it all perfectly flush so that was awesome! Working on the fridge now. |
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Post by Adelard of Bath on Oct 24, 2024 10:41:05 GMT -5
That stove picture is frightening Adelard of Bath. We have a gas cooktop. When I was replacing that, it was easy since the gas line is in an open space under the cooktop (pot/pan storage). Since the value was in good shape, I just had to turn it off and connect the new cooktop with yellow PTFE for a seal. Much easier than what you have to deal with. Cheers. Excellent news, that sounds much easier to deal with. I had to Jackie Chan myself in and out of the little gap behind the stove a couple times as I pushed it closer and closer to the wall. That yellow tape, it's funny because they sell it at the store, but turns out it's not code here because little pieces of the tape ball up and tear off, flowing downstream and clogging gas burners. Maybe it only happened one time, or some inspector dreamed it up, who knows. But I discovered that I like the liquid stuff better than the tape I've used all my life, so now I have several compressed air joints out in the garage I plan to redo. |
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Post by Adelard of Bath on Oct 24, 2024 21:24:24 GMT -5
Well, okay, one side of kitchen done: (I think)  I mean, all the cabinets and everything is empty, I'll probably fret for countless hours on how to arrange stuff. Most of the stuff in my garage and workshop are where they are because that's where I dropped them when we moved in 17 years ago, and I just threw stuff down. (Why is this saw here, in the middle of the floor? That's where there was enough room to set it down on moving day, and one day I needed it and it got plugged in and it's been there since. Unchanged, except for the day I brought home a dumpy cabinet I found on the curb for it to stand on heh heh heh) I wouldn't be surprised if kitchen stuff ends up that way, too. |
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