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Post by tomandrobin on Jul 31, 2023 9:36:03 GMT -5
Is anyone else been following along with the Pete Werner drama with the Disboards/Dreams Unlimited?
The guy is a wack job.
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Post by disney54us on Jul 31, 2023 9:44:43 GMT -5
No, but do tell…. What’s going on? Doesn’t he own both?
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Post by jedimom3 on Jul 31, 2023 10:24:31 GMT -5
Yes, been following it since the Tuesday show, when it really started coming to light in the chat, and then on the forums. ...wow, it is awful!
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Post by brp on Jul 31, 2023 10:28:17 GMT -5
I left disboards for Mouseowners, and now Magicowners. Never looked back. And this thread confirms that decision Cheers.
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Post by rigby on Jul 31, 2023 12:10:55 GMT -5
Is anyone else been following along with the Pete Werner drama with the Disboards/Dreams Unlimited?
The guy is a wack job.
Is there a link? Where do we find the drama?
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Post by nickys on Jul 31, 2023 12:12:22 GMT -5
No, but do tell…. What’s going on? Doesn’t he own both? He is part owner of both the DIS / WDWInfo and Dreams Unlimited. In brief: AMEX is suing Pete for $900k for a company card with DU. Amex are also suing DU since it was their company card. DU are claiming Pete had no right to spend on the card in question and are trying to get out of the law suit. Separately, both a former member of the DIS Unplugged podcast and Pete’s estranged husband have made allegations against him of sexual assault and worse. The whole thing is awful. My heart goes out to the victims. I knew the man was a bully, never dreamed it was as bad as this.
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Post by nickys on Jul 31, 2023 12:17:21 GMT -5
Is anyone else been following along with the Pete Werner drama with the Disboards/Dreams Unlimited?
The guy is a wack job.
Is there a link? Where do we find the drama? You can get the gist of it on the DIS Unplugged sub-forum on the DIS.
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Post by tomandrobin on Jul 31, 2023 12:42:31 GMT -5
No, but do tell…. What’s going on? Doesn’t he own both? He is part owner of both the DIS / WDWInfo and Dreams Unlimited. In brief: AMEX is suing Pete for $900k for a company card with DU. Amex are also suing DU since it was their company card. DU are claiming Pete had no right to spend on the card in question and are trying to get out of the law suit. Separately, both a former member of the DIS Unplugged podcast and Pete’s estranged husband have made allegations against him of sexual assault and worse. The whole thing is awful. My heart goes out to the victims. I knew the man was a bully, never dreamed it was as bad as this. Calling him a bully is too kind. I don't recall exactly when I had my first run in with him.....maybe 2008, but he was an asshole then and only grew worse since.
In my book, he was always way beyond a bully. I hope he loses it all. Disboards and Dreams Unilimited will survive, but it will do so without him.
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Post by Brian5581 on Jul 31, 2023 12:45:24 GMT -5
Without any reading of my own account, so simply based on hearsay...
What a mess. What an asshole.
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Post by Brian5581 on Jul 31, 2023 12:46:36 GMT -5
He is part owner of both the DIS / WDWInfo and Dreams Unlimited. In brief: AMEX is suing Pete for $900k for a company card with DU. Amex are also suing DU since it was their company card. DU are claiming Pete had no right to spend on the card in question and are trying to get out of the law suit. Separately, both a former member of the DIS Unplugged podcast and Pete’s estranged husband have made allegations against him of sexual assault and worse. The whole thing is awful. My heart goes out to the victims. I knew the man was a bully, never dreamed it was as bad as this. Calling him a bully is too kind. I don't recall exactly when I had my first run in with him.....maybe 2008, but he was an asshole then and only grew worse since.
In my book, he was always way beyond a bully. I hope he loses it all. Disboards and Dreams Unilimited will survive, but it will do so without him.
Ha, you beat me to it...
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Post by nickys on Jul 31, 2023 12:47:10 GMT -5
Without any reading of my own account, so simply based on hearsay... What a mess. What an asshole. The AMEX lawsuit is recorded and available to the public.
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Post by nickys on Jul 31, 2023 12:59:53 GMT -5
He is part owner of both the DIS / WDWInfo and Dreams Unlimited. In brief: AMEX is suing Pete for $900k for a company card with DU. Amex are also suing DU since it was their company card. DU are claiming Pete had no right to spend on the card in question and are trying to get out of the law suit. Separately, both a former member of the DIS Unplugged podcast and Pete’s estranged husband have made allegations against him of sexual assault and worse. The whole thing is awful. My heart goes out to the victims. I knew the man was a bully, never dreamed it was as bad as this. Calling him a bully is too kind. I don't recall exactly when I had my first run in with him.....maybe 2008, but he was an asshole then and only grew worse since.
In my book, he was always way beyond a bully. I hope he loses it all. Disboards and Dreams Unilimited will survive, but it will do so without him.
I was choosing my words carefully.. Dreams Unlimited should survive, assuming they can prove they’re not liable for any of that $900k. The DIS and WDWInfo is tougher. He can’t just be kicked out, he’d have to agree to sell. I don’t know if the other part owners will want, or can, buy him out. That said, the DVCFan site has just been sold to WorldofDVC, but that won’t raise enough lol! But WorldofDVC sponsor the DIS - will they want to be associated with something owned by him given the allegations?
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Post by Brian5581 on Jul 31, 2023 13:02:15 GMT -5
Without any reading of my own account, so simply based on hearsay... What a mess. What an asshole. The AMEX lawsuit is recorded and available to the public. Ha, thanks. I'm pretty certain my initial feelings will hold.
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Post by tomandrobin on Jul 31, 2023 13:10:29 GMT -5
Calling him a bully is too kind. I don't recall exactly when I had my first run in with him.....maybe 2008, but he was an asshole then and only grew worse since.
In my book, he was always way beyond a bully. I hope he loses it all. Disboards and Dreams Unilimited will survive, but it will do so without him.
I was choosing my words carefully.. Dreams Unlimited should survive, assuming they can prove they’re not liable for any of that $900k. The DIS and WDWInfo is tougher. He can’t just be kicked out, he’d have to agree to sell. I don’t know if the other part owners will want, or can, buy him out. That said, the DVCFan site has just been sold to WorldofDVC, but that won’t raise enough lol! But WorldofDVC sponsor the DIS - will they want to be associated with something owned by him given the allegations? That is because you are nicer than I am!
I have heard that booked trips are being dropped by people that used Dreams Unlimited.
I do not know the specifics of their ownership and stock of the company. But there is always a way out....it could be protracted or it could be easy. Knowing how he is a prick, its not going to be option #1.
The $900k can be paid.....They make millions. Financially, it will set them back a year or two.
The other option would be for the remaining owners to form a new company and transfer the "good" assets away from the "bad" assets.
I am sure the other top 10 travel agencies are loving all this!
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Post by helenabear on Jul 31, 2023 13:28:19 GMT -5
I'm trying to catch up now. Had work stuff I couldn't get away from (our own drama in the world of gemstones when people try to sell diamonds that don't belong to them for nearly double the price).
No need to choose words carefully here - we're adults.
My history of the DIS is long. I was there shortly after it was founded in 1998 while looking for info for a 1999 family trip. It was small and awesome and pathetic in terms of tech. But it was family. In 2000 I used Dreams Unlimited for my honeymoon. Fantastic TA then. In 2002 I watched Pete personally screw his devoted members in a number of ways. Then snoopygate and some other things happened with mass bannings in 2008. I was caught in a crossfire on accident and they were going to reinstate me when I told them they could suck it and outed them on a few shitty things they did behind the scenes. It was after that that I found out my awesome TA was totally used in a toxic way with work. I heard more rumblings of toxic work environment and how he treated his young new sexual partners as well as current or past partners.
In short this man is nothing but a totally narcissistic asshole.
I've kept a lot inside since I know there are resources there but I prefer not to give this man one click of mine if at all possible. People like him honestly get what they deserve.
I only feel for those caught in crossfires but tbh I am shocked Pete held control this long. He should've gone down in flames like 20 years ago. But suck ups probably helped keep him going.
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