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Post by cpnkirk on Aug 14, 2024 18:13:41 GMT -5
I will say, that sometime in between "going to Disney as a young person" and "going to Disney as an adult", they filled in the 20,000 Leagues lagoon without my knowledge. They didn't even ask me first. This saddened me greatly, as 20,000 Leagues was always one of my very favoritest movies and rides as a kid. But to be honest, I can't even tell really where it was, meaning I can't "see" it and I don't miss it. I can "see" where the bathrooms were at the base of the Skyway by Peter Pan, and I say to my wife "Man, the Skyway was cool" but I guess I don't REALLY miss it. I'm trying to remember this as I try remain calm about some of these proposed changes. I feel this. I was so disappointed to not be able to ride the submarine when I first went back as an adult. I remember the skyway, but I don't miss it. I also was disappointed to not ride the "if you had wings" ride. I also miss the arcade and the magic shop on main street. Seems it's all clothes and stuffed animals now |
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Post by pooh bears mom on Aug 14, 2024 19:01:09 GMT -5
Yeah!! Sounds like a lot of great plans minus getting rid of the ROA! I am so excited for the return of the nighttime parade!! I don't understand why they have to get rid of the rivers of america???
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Post by pooh bears mom on Aug 14, 2024 19:05:23 GMT -5
I guess the earliest we’ll see any of this completed is 2028. Permits are imminent on the MK Cars land. I’m gutted at today’s confirmation that both TSI and the Rivers of America are going. I think AK will be next to start. As for Monsters Inc, it’s only taken 17 years + for the doors coaster to happen. And there’s still no final decision as to whether it goes in Animation Courtyard or replaces Star Tours & Muppets. The concept art showed what appears to be both locations! D23 was also memorable for the confused concept art in general. For the Lion King ride in Paris, it clearly showed logs with single seater configuration and the new version of LK, whereas the model shows seating like Splash and the original animated version. The latter has since been confirmed as correct. Hopefully it goes in the animation courtyard - that has been a big waste since the animation studios left there. A little bit of history that I just learned - when they set up animation courtyard - it was not the original plan for that to be the real place for animation, it was just meant to showcase animation. However, the artists they hired was so great that disney changed their plans and they became the animators:) Not sure if this is true - but i just heard this:) |
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Post by Brian5581 on Aug 14, 2024 19:44:58 GMT -5
Overall rather pleased with the announcements. Usage of both Warburton and Stamos during the presentation was a very nice touch that shows Disney does indeed know its true fans.
I certainly understand the upsetness over losing Tom Sawyer Island and Rivers of America. At thr same time, I have a strong feeling nostalgia far outweighs actual visitation.
Give me a dark ride over a coaster any day, so Encanto house should be cute. Don’t really care about Indiana, though couldn’t care less about Dinosaur. Carousel should also be cute, though the Animal Kingdom heat lessens the appeal.
Definitely looking forward to the lounges. Presuming of course they both damn well better have alcohol.
Monsters door coaster should be very cool. So should the land itself, hopefully. Absolutely belongs in Animation Courtyard area. If not will be interesting to see what realignment occurs.
Villains of course should be amazing.
Way way past time for the return of the evening parade. That alone should restore a healthy dose of the Disney atmosphere people fear may get lost amidst the construction.
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Post by Brian5581 on Aug 14, 2024 19:48:25 GMT -5
Also must return to Disneyland once the audio animatronic Walt is added. Their new Avatar boat ride looks to be excellent as well.
A return to Disneyland Paris to see Lion King land? Absolutely.
Not a bad presentation at all. Of course, we shall see what occurs…
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Post by captjacksfamily on Aug 15, 2024 1:03:52 GMT -5
I won't miss TSI but will miss ROA. I will also join those who believe that the Cars attractions should in the Studios as part of the Pixar area that is already there. If the plans for Villainland could be shoehorned onto TSI I think this could be cool theming as the villains would be separated by a moat. The biggest hit for ROA is losing the Riverboat Liberty Belle not so much as a ride but as a Magic Kingdom Icon.
I would hope that they keep at least part of the water feature that is ROA and permanently dock the Liberty Belle. If they could find a place to dock it closer to Tiana's they could re-theme it into a quick serve on the bottom deck and a table service place on the top deck featuring Cajun food. While I am still on the waiting list (and may always be) for Club 33 I think the one thing they are missing is a Club dinning location like C33 in Disneyland and maybe this would be a good use for the top floor of a permanently docked Liberty Belle.
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Post by baymaxfan on Aug 15, 2024 7:33:02 GMT -5
I won't miss TSI but will miss ROA. I will also join those who believe that the Cars attractions should in the Studios as part of the Pixar area that is already there. If the plans for Villainland could be shoehorned onto TSI I think this could be cool theming as the villains would be separated by a moat. The biggest hit for ROA is losing the Riverboat Liberty Belle not so much as a ride but as a Magic Kingdom Icon. I would hope that they keep at least part of the water feature that is ROA and permanently dock the Liberty Belle. If they could find a place to dock it closer to Tiana's they could re-theme it into a quick serve on the bottom deck and a table service place on the top deck featuring Cajun food. While I am still on the waiting list (and may always be) for Club 33 I think the one thing they are missing is a Club dinning location like C33 in Disneyland and maybe this would be a good use for the top floor of a permanently docked Liberty Belle. I very much doubt they could use the Liberty Belle as a Club 33 dining location. Problem #1 - They would have to fully enclose it as the frequent rain would make any open area a problem. Not to mention, who would want to eat there in the middle of summer (especially when dressed up) unless it was enclosed with A/C. Problem #2 - No kitchen. That means they would need to walk the food over from somewhere else. For nicer dining, this is a huge timing problem from service to food temperature. Problem #3 - Club 33 has this “hidden” element to it. Sure, it’s not truly hidden but not exposed either like this would be. |
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Post by helenabear on Aug 15, 2024 7:49:20 GMT -5
Club 33 has a spot in MK already. Adventureland.
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Post by baymaxfan on Aug 15, 2024 8:00:49 GMT -5
Club 33 has a spot in MK already. Adventureland. Captjack is wanting a real Club 33 dining location like they have at DL. Not just a lounge. |
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Post by Adelard of Bath on Aug 15, 2024 8:12:52 GMT -5
Way way past time for the return of the evening parade. That alone should restore a healthy dose of the Disney atmosphere people fear may get lost amidst the construction. Yes, yes I agree with this for sure. |
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Post by tomandrobin on Aug 15, 2024 8:14:34 GMT -5
I would hope that they keep at least part of the water feature that is ROA and permanently dock the Liberty Belle. If they could find a place to dock it closer to Tiana's they could re-theme it into a quick serve on the bottom deck and a table service place on the top deck featuring Cajun food. While I am still on the waiting list (and may always be) for Club 33 I think the one thing they are missing is a Club dinning location like C33 in Disneyland and maybe this would be a good use for the top floor of a permanently docked Liberty Belle. Preach it!!!
Unfortunately, I don't see either of those things happening.
Personally, The MK Club Lounge is my least favorite of the four. To me, it should have been much bigger and offered a higher level of service. We visit the club usually just to get waters, buy merch or take guests who want to see it. If I plan on Club lounge time, AK an EP are my first two choices.
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Post by tomandrobin on Aug 15, 2024 8:22:15 GMT -5
I very much doubt they could use the Liberty Belle as a Club 33 dining location. Problem #1 - They would have to fully enclose it as the frequent rain would make any open area a problem. Not to mention, who would want to eat there in the middle of summer (especially when dressed up) unless it was enclosed with A/C. Problem #2 - No kitchen. That means they would need to walk the food over from somewhere else. For nicer dining, this is a huge timing problem from service to food temperature. Problem #3 - Club 33 has this “hidden” element to it. Sure, it’s not truly hidden but not exposed either like this would be. #1 - Yes. Not only that, it would require too many modifications to make it worth doing. For example, toilet rooms, hvac, electric, elevator, fire alarm, etc.
#2 - If they could solve #1, then they could solve this by adding a kitchen connected to the boat. Again, costly and unsightly to hide.
#3 - True. Keeping a low profile of the various Club lounges has always been a big part of being a member.
No one dresses up for the Clubs, since people are Park Centric already. Heck, even the nicer restaurants like Cai Grill and Monsieur Paul are really relaxed with guest apparel.
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Post by MinnieMom on Aug 15, 2024 9:49:55 GMT -5
+ new nighttime parade (about time!)
+ new stuff for HS (love that Monsters image for animation courtyard posted earlier in this thread!)
- HS people flow; more sardine time?
+/- AK Dino redo. Will there be any themed play areas for littles when The Dig is removed? DD loved this as a little. Some of our happiest family memories in the early trips were playing with her at the The Dig and HISTK at HS. I get this is a small segment and time limited...but fun spaces that are well themed but not overwhelming were an amazing way to spend time at WDW with a toddler / young child.
- TSI / ROA. Personal choice: keep the nostalgia somewhere. But honestly as much as I enjoyed the sight of the riverboat and the island when walking around the area, I've only ridden the riverboat a handful of times. We visited TSI more because it was a great play are for DD when she was younger. (see above) So I think MK is losing more than it is gaining with this move. Will the new ride be good? Likely. But as recent events have demonstrated, vibe matters. I would personally prefer MK keep TSI and ROA for the relaxing, spacious vibe there.
My last visit, I spent time at Legoland and the new Peppa Pig park in the (former) parking lot. WDW is too big to do the exact same thing. Still, just think of the possibilities of a mini park adjacent to one of the existing theme parks. This might have been a really great way to do Villains land - even to adding a different entrance between GF and MG only accessible by walking over there. That would reduce the cost/strain of infrastructure for a new park, because it could share TTC, parking lot and staff backstage areas fairly easily. It would reduce the strain of more guests in MK crowding Main Street while also allow marketing to introduce a brand new theme park. And I'd argue that it makes total sense to me to give just that little bit of distance between MK (good guys) and Villains park (bad guys).
That mini park with separate entrance concept might actually be the only way to develop a full 5th theme park for WDW from a business perspective. It's the metaphorical "dip toes in water" approach. Because if new mini park soared, easy enough to add more lands and create a whole new entrance with separate parking and other infrastructure over time.
But....Disney. I can already hear the uproar from fans - - why a mini park? why just this? shameful, just shameful. Walt would be sad. So while I would like to think that WDW leadership looked at this kind of a concept and rejected it for good reasons, I'm just not that confident the approach was ever even considered. That does bother me. I totally get making a different decision and moving on. Failing to even consider an option simply strikes me as poor management. But who knows? I could easily be wrong. This may have been studied and rejected by folks with much more info than I have.
And bottom line, I'm still skeptical all the announced new attractions will actually happen. WDW's track record in recent years of actually implementing annoucements is not great (poor Epcot). Hope is not a business plan, but I'm okay simply waiting to see what happens. Here's hoping it will be great!
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Post by helenabear on Aug 15, 2024 13:37:13 GMT -5
Club 33 has a spot in MK already. Adventureland. Captjack is wanting a real Club 33 dining location like they have at DL. Not just a lounge. Just was saying making 2 spots wouldn't happen never mind the issues with the boat. Better luck expanding the first to get it I think. |
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